BAP065 Alycia Owen, International Educator

What are the benefits and challenges of taking your talents abroad to teach English Learners in another area of the world?

In this episode, we hear from Alycia Owen, who is impacting students from the classroom as an ELD Specialist.  She is also a Literacy Coach, Workshop Presenter and Department Head at her school in Guangzhou, China. You can find the show on your favorite podcast app or listen to it right here:

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She is a fantastic Twitter PLN member that I have learned from for years.  You too can find her on Twitter sharing great resources and ideas for English Learners!  Click here to find her. She is @Alycia_Owen

Alycia is my guest for this VoicEd anniversary show. We talk about teaching English abroad and Alycia offers insight from the teacher and the parent point of view.

Alycia was born in the USA and became a teacher here in the states.  She and her husband are both educators and made the decision to take their young family abroad to raise their children with rich cultural experiences.  I am inspired by her explanation of values she was trying to instill in her children.  Their lives are filled with opportunities to learn about new cultures and to appreciate our differences and to realize how many similarities we all have.

We discuss other benefits and also challenges that exist for educators who move to a different culture or geographic location to teach English.  Alycia tells us that her life has been filled with many more ups than downs.  But she also wants people to know about the many resources available to support parents when they are raising their children in a new culture.  She suggests we Google Third Culture Kids or TCK to find more information.

Here is a quick Wikipedia description:

Alycia is not kidding!  A quick Google search reveals an abundance of information, places to connect and other resources for the TCK or Third Culture Kid.

Alycia and I discussed the importance of taking time to honor the names given to our students.  Alycia had a great tip for teachers of ELs:  She suggests learning Hello and Thank You in their naive language and we’ll be golden!Bitmoji Image

We both agreed that it doesn’t need to be a perfect pronunciation when we attempt any of our students’ native language words or phrases.  Alycia shared stories of her challenges in learning Mandarin and the anecdote underscored the beautiful experience and relationship building that happens when you speak to a person in their native tongue.

Before our chat was over,  we were joined by Sherry Liptak from Chilliwack, British Columbia.  We were thrilled to get a call-in listener on this LIVE show and Sherry happens to be one of our PLN members as well.  She is another one always sharing great advice so be sure to follow here at @SherryTeacher. 


We had a lot of great conversation and before we were through, I asked them for some Green light and Red light activities for teachers working with English Learners.  Tan Huynh gave me the idea of using Green Light (things to do more of), Yellow Light (things to do less of) and Red light (things to stop doing) strategies on this show.  We ran out of time for too many but here are a few Alycia and Sherry recommend:

Things to Do More of:

  • Getting the students talking in low stress ways… even if for small moments.
  • As a teacher, take thoughtful risks.  Pronouncing students names, allowing parents to come in, other risks.

Things to Stop Doing:

  • Giving “busy work”, Look for Meaningful or Authentic Opportunities to Use English
  • Stop calling on the students with their hands raised only.  There is a place for that, but please get more proficient with structured conversations like QSSSA.

Big thanks to both these ladies for joining me for this episode.  I got so much out of it!

I’m thrilled to get feedback like this below from Katy Schain.  Our PLN is really the best!

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